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Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:37:29 -0400
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[idm] timbaland et al. (warning: flame bait)
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quoted 3 lines Or conversly, what does Timbaland listen too?>Or conversly, what does Timbaland listen too? > >He has to have this-listy taste! For godsakes, if "get yer freak on"
wasn't
quoted 1 line Missy, we'd all be getting dead excited. In an olde skool stylee.>Missy, we'd all be getting dead excited. In an olde skool stylee.
I think one thing to keep in mind here is that Timbaland is pretty firmly rooted in the black music culture of the US which I know this will incite flames but is undoubtably an influence on the work of virtually any idm artists using beats. Timbaland is an innovator in the style of Southern R&B which is influenced heavily by the tick tick bump sound of miami bass where the action is all in high hats and kicks (like a lot of IDM I find) and the snare is pretty unimportant (808 snare anyone?). Timbaland is I think taking this to a logical next step, step outside of the idm world for a sec and you will learn that there is a lot of complex shit going on in the pop world. The whole synth sound is the dominant sound in commercial black US dance music (hip hop/r&b) on the radio (in the states) these days because they got tired of paying for samples and it has been running in the southern us for a long while, which is where most of the production innovation is coming to new york from these days, following in the wake of bass and all that stuff. Not to start another interminable AE thread but when they recently went to Miami they spent their time going to flea markets and digging for bass mix tapes. I am really getting my ramble on here but it's something I like to remind people who are trying to copy innovators, you have to go to the source, don't copy the copy. If you want to understand autechre's 808 style electroey tracks you need to listen to some OG real electro and bass and then make your own extrapolation from there, if you dont want to sound 100% derivative. I love a lot of black music as well as it's many white hybrids and offshoots (AE, Co.Flow, Ed Rush & Optical etc) and find that many of the kids trying to copy this stuff get too far diluted from the source because they are unaware of the roots. I apologize in advance for any excess flame traffic this post may create but hey, someone had to say it. peace, _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org